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May 19, 2007

Headaches have themselves

Filed under: All and sundry — Tags: , , , , , — Ulrich Mohrhoff @ 11:00 pm

The London Review of Books has an entertaining review by Jerry Fodor of Consciousness and Its Place in Nature: Does Physicalism Entail Panpsychism? by Galen Strawson et al. It starts out like this:

Consciousness is all the rage just now. It boasts new journals of its very own, from which learned articles overflow. Neuropsychologists snap its picture (in colour) with fMRI machines, and probe with needles for its seat in the brain. At all seasons, and on many continents, interdisciplinary conferences about consciousness draw together bizarre motleys that include philosophers, psychologists, phenomenologists, brain scientists, MDs, computer scientists, the Dalai Lama, novelists, neurologists, graphic artists, priests, gurus and (always) people who used to do physics. Institutes of consciousness studies are bountifully subsidised. Meticulous distinctions are drawn between the merely conscious and the consciously available; and between each of these and the preconscious, the unconscious, the subconscious, the informationally encapsulated and the introspectable. There is no end of consciousness gossip on Tuesdays in the science section of the New York Times. Periodically, Nobel laureates pronounce on the connections between consciousness and evolution, quantum mechanics, information theory, complexity theory, chaos theory and the activity of neural nets. Everybody gives lectures about consciousness to everybody else. But for all that, nothing has been ascertained with respect to the problem that everybody worries about most: what philosophers have come to call ‘the hard problem’. The hard problem is this: it is widely supposed that the world is made entirely of mere matter, but how could mere matter be conscious? How, in particular, could a couple of pounds of grey tissue have experiences?…

There is, I should add, another way to respond to the hard problem. One might hold that the world isn’t made entirely of matter after all; there is also a fundamentally different kind of stuff – mind-stuff, call it – and consciousness resides in that. Notoriously, however, this view has hard problems of its own. For example, if matter-stuff and mind-stuff are of fundamentally different kinds, how are causal relations between them possible? How is it possible that eating should be caused by feeling peckish or feeling peckish by not eating? For this and other reasons, mind-stuff has mostly fallen out of fashion…

Comment by Yours Truly: Although I am no fan of mind-matter interactionism, one of the more stupid objections to it is the challenge to explain how a nonmaterial mind can act on matter. The right response to his challenge is that we don’t even know how matter can act on matter! The classical explanations are sleights of hand — transmogrifications of mathematical symbols into physical entities — and in quantum physics such sleights of hand no longer work.

That, then, sets the stage for Galen Strawson’s Consciousness and Its Place in Nature, which consists of a lead essay by Strawson, commentaries by 18 other philosophers, and Strawson’s extensive comments on the comments… I must warn you, however, that Strawson’s way with the hard problem is wildly at odds with the views current in most of philosophy and psychology…

So, then, if everything is made of the same sort of stuff as tables and chairs (as per [Strawson's] monism), and if at least some of the things made of that sort of stuff are conscious (there is no doubt that we are), and if there is no way of assembling stuff that isn’t conscious that produces stuff that is ([Strawson claims that] there’s no emergence), it follows that the stuff that tables, chairs and the bodies of animals (and, indeed, everything else) is made of must itself be conscious. Strawson, having wrestled his angel to a draw, stands revealed as a panpsychist: basic things (protons, for example) are loci of conscious experience. You don’t find that plausible? Well, I warned you.

Now go and read the rest (to find out, among other things, why headaches have themselves).

3 Comments »

  1. Dear Ulrich,
    You say:
    “Although I am no fan of mind-matter interactionism, one of the more stupid objections to it is the challenge to explain how a nonmaterial mind can act on matter”
    Even so, in some of your papers you make a very cogent exam of how the interactionist approach could be made to work.
    From the abstract of your “Interactionism, Energy Conservation and the violation of Physical Laws” (Physics Essays 10(4), 1997):
    “Interactionism implies departures from the laws of physics, despite attempts to demonstrate the contrary…”, “These departures are best formulated in terms of modifications by the conscious self, of the electromagnetic interaction between particles…”
    I stop the quote here, but the rest of the paper is really interesting, thought provoking and worth reading.
    But, my question is if rejecting interactionism is not falling in the epiphenomenalist another horn of the dilemma. How to avoid it?
    Thanks for sharing tour thoughts.
    Antonio

    Comment by Antonio Franco — May 25, 2007 @ 9:43 am

  2. Dear Antonio:

    One has to go beyond the implied dualism. Mind and matter are mutually irreducible, and they interact. They would be prevented from doing so only if dualism were the last word. It is not, but neither is a reductionist materialism or idealism. Matter and mind have a common origin beyond matter and mind. I have written about this in my Cogprints papers. Best - Ulrich

    Comment by Ulrich Mohrhoff — May 25, 2007 @ 11:49 am

  3. Thanks for the comment and link, Ulrich.
    I think I see your pont much better now.
    All the best,
    Antonio

    Comment by Antonio Franco — May 26, 2007 @ 9:40 am

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